Beyond Body Count: The Real Measure of a Man

Let’s get something straight right out of the gate—
I’m not here to moralize; I’m here to clarify.

Rollo Tomassi wrote an article dividing men into two camps: “guys who fuck” and “guys who don’t.” He calls morality a cope, body count a badge of honor, and self-control a weakness.

This rebuttal isn’t about taking cheap shots. It’s about cutting through the noise, calling out the lies, and putting masculinity, from a biblical worldview, back in its rightful frame- patriarchal, disciplined, and purpose-driven.

⚔️ What Actually Matters

Let me make my stance plain before anyone twists it—Body count doesn’t matter as a number.

What matters is how she treats you now.

I don’t care if she’s been with three men or thirty—what I care about is whether she honors you, respects you, and treats the relationship as sacred ground. If she moves like a loyal woman—protective of your name, your peace, and your mission—that’s worth more than any “pure” woman who secretly disrespects her man.

A man doesn’t obsess over unprovable numbers; he evaluates patterns of behavior. Because you’ll never know every detail of her past—but you’ll always see how she acts in your presence.

So while Rollo tries to measure women by mileage, I measure them by mindset—and that’s the mark of a man operating in frame, not fear.

Rollo Tomassi wrote:

Guys who don’t fuck spend lifetimes consoling themselves with moral high-ground narratives to explain why they don’t fuck. At least 80% of guys don’t fuck, so there’s a lot of narrative inbreeding and self-congratulatory bullshit passed around among them. This bullshit has been de rigueur for millennia, but in the social media age, it’s an obvious cope. We’re just more aware of it now.

Of course, the best narratives are the ones that make guys who don’t fuck feel good about not fucking while simultaneously making guys who do fuck feel bad about fucking. This disqualification tactic is one of the many forms of bloodless intrasexual competition tactics that 80%er men have consoled themselves with since the Middle Ages. If you can make your intrasexual rival feel guilty about fucking – because God hates fucking for any reason besides making babies – then you have a tactical advantage in the sexual economy. It works even better if you can gaslight a superior sexual rival to believe he (or she) is going to Hell if he pursues his biological imperative to his fullest potential.

Generally, lesser men cannot openly challenge greater men (men who fuck) in physical prowess. So, more intelligent men who don’t fuck contrived forms of social gaslighting to improve their chances of reproducing. Smarter lesser men have always devised workarounds to solve their reproductive problems. It’s actually one of the strengths of our species. Nothing sparks innovation quite like a man solving his proximate need for sex and his ultimate need to reproduce. And nothing has been more expedient a tactic than convincing a greater man that he ought to disqualify himself from the sexual economy.

Glenn’s Response

Rollo assumes moral discipline is just an excuse for failure. In his world, if a man isn’t smashing every woman he can, he must be consoling himself with righteousness. That’s not Red Pill realism—that’s nihilism wearing a leather jacket.

Self-control isn’t weakness—it’s power. A man who can rule his own flesh is a man who can rule anything. Proverbs 16:32 says: ‘He that ruleth his spirit is greater than he that taketh a city.’